Issue: Using KV-quantization kvarn6 results in extremely slow performance compared to q8_0 on AMD ROCm hardware.
Performance Comparison
Both tests used the same prompt (10,410 tokens) and identical settings except for KV quantization.
Note: The kvarn6 run was canceled early due to excessive runtime.
| Metric |
q8_0 |
kvarn6 |
Regression |
| Prompt Processing |
821.19 tokens/sec |
53.79 tokens/sec |
~15.3x slower |
| Text Generation |
29.52 tokens/sec |
1.34 tokens/sec |
~22x slower |
This is a severe performance regression that makes kvarn6 practically unusable.
Steps to Reproduce
- Use llama.cpp build
11192 (ee8754c57) with ROCm backend on Windows
- Load a large model (tested with Qwen3.6-27B-Fable-Fusion-Q4_K_M)
- Run with full offload (
-ngl 99) and flash attention (-fa 1)
- Compare these two configurations:
q8_0 (baseline):
llama-server.exe -m <model> -ngl 99 -fa 1 -ctk q8_0 -ctv q8_0 -c 40000
kvarn6 (regression):
llama-server.exe -m <model> -ngl 99 -fa 1 -ctk kvarn6 -ctv kvarn6 -c 40000
System Information
- GPU: AMD Radeon RX 7900 XTX (24 GB VRAM)
- CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 7900X 12-Core
- RAM: 64 GB
- OS: Windows
- Backend: ROCm (HIP), NO_VMM = 1
- Build: 11192 (ee8754c) with Clang 20.1.8 for Windows x86_64
- Model: Qwen3.6-27B-Fable-Fusion (Q4_K_M, 65 layers, 27.32B params, 17.22 GiB)
Relevant Log Excerpts
q8_0 performance:
prompt processing, n_tokens = 10410, progress = 1.00, t = 11.93 s / 872.56 tokens per second
prompt eval time = 12681.67 ms / 10414 tokens (1.22 ms per token, 821.19 tokens per second)
eval time = 73468.79 ms / 2169 tokens (33.87 ms per token, 29.52 tokens per second)
kvarn6 performance (run canceled after ~5.5 minutes):
prompt processing, n_tokens = 10410, progress = 1.00, t = 193.54 s / 53.79 tokens per second
n_decoded = 144, tg = 1.34 t/s
Expected Behavior
kvarn6 should provide competitive or better performance than q8_0 while using less VRAM, or at least not be an order of magnitude slower.
Actual Behavior
kvarn6 is 15-22x slower than q8_0 on ROCm hardware, making it impractical for use.
Additional Notes
- This appears to be ROCm-specific; the kvarn6 implementation may not be optimized for AMD GPUs
- The issue affects both prompt processing and token generation equally severely
- The kvarn6 run was manually canceled due to excessive runtime; actual degradation may be even more severe over longer generations
- Full log level 5 logs for both q8_0 and kvarn6 runs are attached to this issue
log_kvarn6_lv5.txt
log_q8_0_lv5.txt
Issue: Using KV-quantization
kvarn6results in extremely slow performance compared toq8_0on AMD ROCm hardware.Performance Comparison
Both tests used the same prompt (10,410 tokens) and identical settings except for KV quantization.
This is a severe performance regression that makes kvarn6 practically unusable.
Steps to Reproduce
11192 (ee8754c57)with ROCm backend on Windows-ngl 99) and flash attention (-fa 1)q8_0 (baseline):
kvarn6 (regression):
System Information
Relevant Log Excerpts
q8_0 performance:
kvarn6 performance (run canceled after ~5.5 minutes):
Expected Behavior
kvarn6should provide competitive or better performance thanq8_0while using less VRAM, or at least not be an order of magnitude slower.Actual Behavior
kvarn6is 15-22x slower thanq8_0on ROCm hardware, making it impractical for use.Additional Notes
log_kvarn6_lv5.txt
log_q8_0_lv5.txt