What does the DEI-free commitment mean?

[Denperidge]

It's explicitly free of any "DEI" or similar discriminatory policies.

The above is an excerpt of the README. Due to DEI being a wide arrangement of definitions, practices and policies: could you outline what this means to you, and what it is that is(n't) allowed?

(Edit) especially since underneath that excerpt, you seem to be dedicated to the inclusion of everyone across the political/ethnicity/gender spectrums. But this also falls - for some - under traditional DEI policies

[probonopd]

Maybe it would be most productive to describe the project governance it terms of what it is (e.g.,: meritocracy, who codes decides, everyone is welcome, etc.) rather than what it is not.

[miranda]

Please take this anti-DEI nonsense out of the README. DEI is the opposite of discriminatory, despite what the current US government regime says.

I'm very interested in keeping X11 alive, but this is an extremely bad look for the project.

[Slatepaws]

It means you're judged on your skills as a coder. You're politeness. Not characteristics a person cannot in reality change such as skin color and what's between their legs.

[Denperidge]

It means you're judged on your skills as a coder. You're politeness. Not characteristics a person cannot in reality change such as skin color and what's between their legs.

Do you have any examples PR's in open source projects being approved solely on the basis of someone's gender identity/skin color?

Also, I don't want to be predantic, but changing what is in between your legs is objectively possible. Your opinions on what people can do with gender may vary, but those surgeries do just exist.

[kkmzero]

Funny how wayland enjoyers screamed for years about technological problems/shortcomings of X but surprisingly huge focus is placed on readme file instead as it's the most braindead way to attack this project. As if the readme is not explicit enough about who is welcomed:

It doesn't matter which country you're coming from, your politicial views, your race, your sex, your age, your food menu, whether you wear boots or heels, whether you're furry or fairy, Conan or McKay, comic character, a small furry creature from Alpha Centauri, or just an boring average person. Anybody's welcomed, who's interested in bringing X forward.

Close this pointless issue and stop embarrassing yourselves.

[steven-vd]

@miranda

Please take this anti-DEI nonsense out of the README. DEI is the opposite of discriminatory, despite what the current US government regime says.

I'm very interested in keeping X11 alive, but this is an extremely bad look for the project.

The anti-DEI part of the readme is useful for filtering out the kind of people who took over the previous version of x11. The people complaining about this would have never contributed in the first place.

[miranda]

So you want to attract people who are against diversity? This project is going be DOA rather than DEI.

The people who cry about DEI are the same people who cry about "white genocide" and the "great replacement theory".

The anti-DEI line is antithetical to everything else in the README claiming to be inclusive. Please remove it, and be specific instead.

[flossy83]

It just means you won't be treated any differently based on your race, nationality, sex, sexuality etc.

If you still don't get it, the E in DEI stands for equity which is the antithesis of equality. Equality means equal treatment, equity means equal outcomes.

[dec05eba]

Looks like the anti DEI message in the README is working, it's filtering out the worst people

[Denperidge]

Ouchie :(

[miranda]

I guess the fork will need to be forked if X11 is actually going to live on. Sounds like this project should probably be renamed to X11MAGA.

Or you know, the toxic anti-DEI nonsense line could just simply be removed from the README.

You're proving that this project actually isn't inclusive by calling me "the worst people" just because I am warning against using right-wing dog whistles in the README of a supposedly apolitical project.

What a shame.

[kkmzero]

I guess the fork will need to be forked if X11 is actually going to live on. Sounds like this project should probably be renamed to X11MAGA.

Or you know, the toxic anti-DEI nonsense line could just simply be removed from the README.

You're proving that this project actually isn't inclusive by calling me "the worst people" just because I am warning against using right-wing dog whistles in the README of a supposedly apolitical project.

What a shame.

I know it will come as a surprise to many of you trolls but the world does not revolve around US politics. The readme is saying in verbose way that EVERYONE is welcome as long as you want to help the project. You are ignoring it on purpose and desperately trying to create issue where is none. When it didn't work you quickly tried to be manipulative with statements such as: "This project is going be DOA rather than DEI.", creating some sort of passive-aggressive virtual threat to evoke fear. If that DEI line in readme is going to filter out this type of toxic people then I'm all for it.

[miranda]

Wake up. Calling something "anti-DEI" or "anti-woke" is what is actually toxic. It's a strong political culture-war alignment. To use that kind of divisive language and then say "everyone is welcome here" at the same time makes no sense. It is only going to drive people away, and that's just a fact. But I see I am in the minority here... which is just straight up tragic because I really do believe in keeping Xorg alive.

[Denperidge]

I know it will come as a surprise to many of you trolls but the world does not revolve around US politics.

Again, I hate to be pedantic, but the term DEI comes from the United States and is primarily used in their political framework.

(Not to mention both GitHub and X11 are american products. I am not from the US, but US legislation and political movements massively impact projects like these)

[flossy83]

Wake up. Calling something "anti-DEI" or "anti-woke" is what is actually toxic. It's a strong political culture-war alignment. To use that kind of divisive language and then say "everyone is welcome here" at the same time makes no sense.

Doesn't say "anti" dei or "anti" anything:

It's explicitly free of any "DEI" or similar discriminatory policies

Being free of something isn't "anti", an example is separation of church and state doesn't mean the government is anti religion