Writing 3D WKT: Z in prefix?

[sgiraudot]

When writing 3D objects in WKT, a "Z" is supposed to be added to the prefix, such that a 2D point and a 3D point are differentiated:

POINT (1,2)
POINT Z (1,2,3)

But as far as I tested, when writing 3D objects using the WKT writer of Boost Geometry, the "Z" prefix is never written, leading to this kind of output:

POINT (1,2)
POINT (1,2,3)

It seems to be similar for other types of primitives (LINESTRING, etc.).

Reading 3D objects with Boost both works with and without "Z" in the input.

Wouldn't it make more sense to add "Z" to the prefix whenever a 3D object is written?

[mloskot]

When writing 3D objects in WKT, a "Z" is supposed to be added to the prefix,

Yes, only when writing WKT as defined the ISO SQL/MM specification.

Boost.Geometry is not compliant with the SQL/MM. The WKT I/O is based on the SFSQL 1.0 specification (still, I'm not betting my head it's fully compliant with it either).

I'd suggest to consider the WKT I/O is a utility for user's convenience and for convenience of developers testing the library features itself. It is not really a fully-featured up-to-date production-ready and SQL/MM WKT implementation.

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It wouldn't take huge effort to add support for writing Z for 3D geometries. Question is, should it be optional, if not, what about compatibility with current implementation, should be retained or is it not relevant. Generally, Boost libraries never promise compatibility between versions. Plus, since WKT I/O is an utility feature, compatibility may not be a relevant issue. Let's see what others think.

[awulkiew]

So we'd need a separate function for that.

We should also probably do it for M. The problem is currently we are unable between distinguishing between coordinates, measures, time, etc. It's all coordinates for us.

[mloskot]

I thought perhaps detail::wkt::prefix_point could be a template taking Point then it could dispatch based on dimension, POINT for 2 or POINT Z for 3.

I think Z is more important than other measures. Another issue is that if BG advertises support of other measures, then users will likely expect e.g. why M is not copied/preserved/synthesised etc. by operation X :-)

[sudo-panda]

I would like to work on this. Is what @mloskot suggested final or does this need more inputs?

[mloskot]

@sudo-panda If my comment does not receive any responses and if my suggestion seems sensible to you, and you are willing to give it a go, then I'd suggest you to submit PR.

Once there is a (working) proof of concept ready to review, it will be much easier for more people to offer specific feedback. It may turn out the idea is a good one and your PR will be accepted or we will find problems and your PR will need rework. You need to decide if you want to take the risk :)

[sudo-panda]

@mloskot Since this appears to be closely related to the header file I am already working on, do you think it will be better if I let that one get merged first?

I thought perhaps detail::wkt::prefix_point could be a template taking Point then it could dispatch based on dimension, POINT for 2 or POINT Z for 3.

This seems like a detect approach but I think we should let the users decide which one to follow POINT or POINT Z. What do you say?

[mloskot]

Since this appears to be closely related to the header file I am already working on, do you think it will be better if I let that one get merged first?

You need to link issue or PR or whatever you are talking about.

This seems like a detect approach

I'm not familiar with this name, could you elaborate?

I think we should let the users decide which one to follow POINT or POINT Z

If user serialises point_xy, then obvious WKT output tag is POINT.
If user serialises point_xyz, then obvious WKT output tag is POINT Z.

Do you mean to offer user an option to force POINT output for point_xyz or POINT Z output for point_xy?

[sudo-panda]

You need to link issue or PR or whatever you are talking about.

I was talking about #670

This seems like a detect approach

I'm not familiar with this name, could you elaborate?

Sorry, that was a typo. I wanted to say something on the line of this being a good approach.

I think we should let the users decide which one to follow POINT or POINT Z

If user serialises point_xy, then obvious WKT output tag is POINT.
If user serialises point_xyz, then obvious WKT output tag is POINT Z.

Do you mean to offer user an option to force POINT output for point_xyz or POINT Z output for point_xy?

I mean to let users decide whether to output POINT or POINT_Z for point_xyz. But I guess since boost doesn't have to maintain backwards compatibility it's fine if we don't give users that option.

The only doubt that remains is should I start working on this before #670 is merged? In my opinion it is going to cause a lot of merge conflicts.

[Siddharth-coder13]

hey @mloskot, I am a new contributor and would like to work on this issue?

[mloskot]

@Siddharth-coder13 See #368 (comment)

[mloskot]

FYI, related comments posted in #782 (comment)

[vissarion]

I thought perhaps detail::wkt::prefix_point could be a template taking Point then it could dispatch based on dimension, POINT for 2 or POINT Z for 3.

I think Z is more important than other measures. Another issue is that if BG advertises support of other measures, then users will likely expect e.g. why M is not copied/preserved/synthesised etc. by operation X :-)

I am not fluent with GIS applications but M seems to me important as well. In any case why not reading an M coordinate and then discard it in geometric operations? For example, we could have a utility that tell the user if the point has an M coordinate or not (by convention this could be always the last coordinate). The rest of the coordinates (1, 2, 3 or more) will be considered "spatial".