re:DEI, a community of hateful and genocidal speech

[JohnAlexINL]

RE: X11Libre/xserver#82 #37 X11Libre/xserver#80 X11Libre/xserver#78 #75 and the concern around reactionarism being what XLibre will be.
This is just a snippet showing off exactly what a community devoid of the dreaded DEI-boogyman looks like.

Then Leave.
First, the leftards made everything political.
Second, most laws being passed are not because of your existence, but because of your behavior. If you cannot control yourself, you should be put away from civilized society (institutionalized), and if it still does not work, being put down is an option. Want to be left alone? Behave in a civilized way.
Third, you don't have a right to be accepted in every group. Unless people beat you up, harm is a mental construct. Get a thicker skin.
Fourth, its entirely reasonable to demand things be kept as non-political as possible. Activists start by dismantling these constraints in order to spread their bullshit around. You're the one being unreasonable.
Fifth, and last. Discrimination is a sign of high intelligence. Between a turd and a sandwich, its good to be able to discriminate before eating.

TLDR: I don't care if you are a degenerate, as long as you keep it to yourself. This is a setting for software development, not for group therapy nor for flamboyant personalities to shine.

Originally posted by @UnD3RsC0R3 in #40

@X11Libre if the edgy and exclusionary language in the README is as important to you as the community discussions suggest, then by all means. Just understand that it will mean lower-quality code (if any) from a small, bigoted core of developers more focused on calling people slurs than running tests or actually contributing code.

[robertkirkman]

I am a liberal so I will use the woke DEI freedesktop.org and the conservatives can use the anti-woke anti-DEI Xlibre. it makes sense to me.
As I understand it, there are also woke DEI Wayland compositors and anti-woke anti-DEI Wayland compositors, so it is important for each X11 server to also be a containment zone for each political position.

[gkshenaut]

I came because I'm very interested in the continuation of X11, but then I saw this DEI comment and Just Don't Get It. Is this a serious project or not?

[top-master]

I see many possibly paid-actors creating tickets here and there.
Damn be big-corp money.

The OP'er (original poster) of this ticket is using the words "hateful and genocidal" in an insulting manner and is by doing that going against this repo's sole policy: "treating others nicely".

Hence, close this ticket as soon as possible and maybe even ban such OP'ers please, thanks.

[miranda]

LOL "paid-actors". Right wingers are always so conspiracy-brained.

[ToneyFoxxy]

LOL "paid-actors". Right wingers are always so conspiracy-brained.

Occam's razor; it is less likely that you actually believe what you say. Paid actor is among the most generous options

[reaperx7]

I'm politically right leaning myself, but my problem lies mainly with the corporate backing of FreeDesktops and Gnome by Red Hat, and the lack of morals by Red Hat developers to allow FOSS to flourish by accepting patches and maintaining code they have on their servers.

I left my politics at the Login button.

If Red Hat wants to be the world's biggest bunch of anti-FOSS ass hats, then they and their developers, all of them, need to be ran out of all FOSS software development, their projects forked and seized, and told you're done...

I'd sooner now trust a Microsoft employee coding for FOSS than a Red Hat employee.

[JohnAlexINL]

I think the issue here is really simple: will @X11Libre choose to foster an open and collaborative community, or is it going to favor and enable hateful speech and ingroup culture-war nonsense?

Given that, on the tin, the point of this whole shindig is free and open source software maintained by community collaboration, one makes a hell of a lot more sense than the other.

[reaperx7]

We need a community fostering software development, not politics. We should leave politics at the login button. The best inclusive community is the one where people mind their own personal business and focus on the task at hand.

[miranda]

We need a community fostering software development, not politics. We should leave politics at the login button.

Yeah but the problem is, instead of leaving them at the login button... they were left at the README.

[jayjay73]

@JohnAlexINL you really wanted that word in a top level discussion, didn’t you? For what purpose? In the hopes Github / MS see it and step in?

I can’t find any mentions of it in the project. Can you point out where you found it mentioned?

[MennilTossFlykune]

Does this project really need people who are so insistent on forcing their way into spaces where they are not wanted?

[progzone122]

Can someone briefly explain to me what all these people are complaining about?
I don't live in countries where this kind of DEI propaganda is at its peak, but I don't like the idea that DEI is somehow influencing projects (Nobody should give a damn about it at all).
I take it this project will not impose DEI, which is now being actively imposed to the detriment of development? What's wrong with that?

[progzone122]

Может ли кто-нибудь кратко объяснить мне, на что жалуются все эти люди? Я не живу в странах, где подобная пропаганда DEI находится на пике, но мне не нравится идея, что DEI каким-то образом влияет на проекты (никто вообще не должен обращать на это внимания). Я так понимаю, что этот проект не будет навязывать DEI, который сейчас активно навязывается в ущерб развитию? Что в этом плохого?

I took that to mean “This project won't have what they're trying to push in the same AAA games now”

[JustJinxed]

Can someone briefly explain to me what all these people are complaining about? I don't live in countries where this kind of DEI propaganda is at its peak, but I don't like the idea that DEI is somehow influencing projects (Nobody should give a damn about it at all). I take it this project will not impose DEI, which is now being actively imposed to the detriment of development? What's wrong with that?

There's nothing wrong with not adopting something. Some people have a very warped idea of what DEI is, from seeing it applied in business and hearing about it on the news. That entire argument and buzzword shouldn't even be here. If I had to list all the things I don't adopt in my other projects, I'd be busy listing them, for years.

Silly opinion of mine: I'd just take it out. Focus on what we do, not what we don't do. I don't see Enrico or others being a root of some problem, but it leaves a silly door open, that doesn't need to be there. The buzzword means too many different things, to too many people.